5 Edrum Upgrades Drummers Want

5 Edrum Upgrades Drummers Want

Electronic drums are great, and they’ve come a long way from when the first ones came out. But there’s always room for improvement. Here are the 5 main upgrades drummers want made to electronic drums in the next few years.

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50 Comments

  1. Justin Faulkingham on November 24, 2022 at 7:17 am

    Love your channel, great job keep it up. I’d like to see better navigation within the modules. Many have incredible capabilities, but diving into 10 folders to perform a rudimentary task can be inundating or intimidating. I wonder if voice commands could be utilized like our phones or TV remotes have. That would be sweet.

  2. thebestyoda on November 24, 2022 at 7:20 am

    What’s the best module under £1500 or the dollar equivalent?

    PS: Your channel is great. Keep it up!

  3. guitar53jmg on November 24, 2022 at 7:25 am

    I’ve got a Roland TD11 set. The upgrade I would like to see is more realistic size hard rubber drum pads.

  4. The Warmest Robot on November 24, 2022 at 7:27 am

    I want to be able to drop in my own samples onto memory on my Alesis Nitro Mesh

  5. StickySprite on November 24, 2022 at 7:27 am

    On the vst front there is a lot of progress being made in synth-land where people are using raspberry pi to make small computers that function like hardware sequencers but with the advantages of DAWs. I’m thinking/hoping this will drift over to drums soon.

  6. Pete Skyrunner on November 24, 2022 at 7:27 am

    I see having drum shells the same depth as acoustic drums as a bit of a step backwards really. Electronic drums have various advantages and disadvantage but one of the real positives is they are generally small, light weight and compact. I loaded my whole kit into my van tonight in two trips (I couldn’t play in the end. Something was wrong with the PA and we couldn’t get the sound through it. Gutted, ) . I keep the frame set up but folded flat, and the rest of the kit fits into a plastic storage container. Can’t do that with full size shells. I would never buy them to look ‘cool’.

  7. Chas Pace on November 24, 2022 at 7:27 am

    Hey Justin, I will wait and see whats new from the 2019 Namm Show, there could be some surprises. I’m a live cover player and seriously considering the Mimic Pro (if they add positional sensing)…plus add some bigger roland pads, and an ATV 18"ride and Hi-hat. Don’t really care about real size shells, I’m more for quality over quantity, but I do like the Roland KD-A22, to add some stage presence to the kit. So far I have not been enticed by Roland to upgrade any further from my Roland TD-12 kit.

  8. Despic Z on November 24, 2022 at 7:27 am

    No matter how much companies and their development sector are trying to achieve the ultimate best sound, you must realize that plug and play perfect sounding is almost impossible. Why? In your headphones, with just a little adjustment, your edrum will always sound great, but not always on the gig … there are too many factors. The most important two are
    1. different PA systems give different sounds

    2. room size and shape
    The sixth thing I would add to your list is that each module should have at least 4 line out output jacks! At least. 1. kcik. 2. snare 3. toms 4. cymbals
    .
    Roland realized the advantage of direct outs and therefore its more expensive modules have a direct out for each component. I admire that.

  9. Stikkman on November 24, 2022 at 7:28 am

    Fully agree as to the pain point(s) of connecting up a laptop and the interface and myriad of cables to run a VST – not to mention the latency it introduces. Wouldn’t it be great if VST manufacturers would make their kits/sound libraries available on USB sticks that you could import/load directly into your drum module?

  10. CTI on November 24, 2022 at 7:33 am

    Make a discord server 🤔

  11. Joe G on November 24, 2022 at 7:35 am

    Mesh heads are fantastic. One advantage of edrum kits is that they take up less space, I’m not sure the majority of the market wants acoustic-sized, deep shells. I agree, hi-hats are terrible. Improving the sound quality in the module samples and/or easier utilization of third-party software would be welcomed by most of the marketplace. For me, wireless certainly would not be the priority at this point.

  12. IDK Ideas on November 24, 2022 at 7:36 am

    Should I get the alesis nitro mesh kit for a beginer, and how do I convince my parents for an kit

  13. bigdaddy812 on November 24, 2022 at 7:37 am

    1) various sized cymbals (8” splash) that look real 2) easy plug and play trigger adds

  14. αndrєч rσdríguєz on November 24, 2022 at 7:37 am

    Companies need to stop including single zone rides in "cheap" kits. I don’t care the "if you hit the ride with enough force it will sound like the ride bell" I would’t complain paying $50-$70 extra to get a dual zone ride out of the box and not spending $100+ in a used one (taking in account that the used one is compatible with the kit)

  15. geff gorg on November 24, 2022 at 7:37 am

    my tama starclassic cost me 800 bucks, it looks great, sounds excellent, and i’ll be able to play it for years to come. meanwhile the equivalent edrum set at that price point is small, doesn’t sound that great and most likely wont last. that’s unacceptable. i know its not that cut and dry necessarily but edrumming is still way too expensive if you ask me.

  16. Hazardous Genetic Mutation on November 24, 2022 at 7:37 am

    I’m not looking forward to the swap I love playing my acoustic kit
    But it’s just not going to stay that way

  17. Billie Shoemate on November 24, 2022 at 7:38 am

    Rubber pads. They need to go. They should have gone the way of the dinosaur when Roland’s patent expired. They are uninspiring to play, they look stupid and they’re just old hat, man

  18. jezusmylord on November 24, 2022 at 7:39 am

    I would totally dig a drum sticks video in general i have no idea what the numbers mean and cant find a unified info about it.

  19. MarkuZ P on November 24, 2022 at 7:40 am

    You said at 4:20 that there is superior drummer 5 build in the mimic. That’s not true! There is Steven Slate Drums 4 & 5 libraryparts in it.

  20. prasanna n on November 24, 2022 at 7:40 am

    Am I the only one who feels the need to go back to an acoustic drum kit after a few days of getting my alesis nitromesh kit… I somehow feel cramped may be cos of the compact layout..?? Opinions welcome…

  21. drageben on November 24, 2022 at 7:41 am

    Also thank you for making a video about my post

  22. Jim Moore on November 24, 2022 at 7:42 am

    I really think the roland 17kvx for $1600 is good bang for the buck. Coming from a guy who’s had two previous rolands.

  23. Mike Luke on November 24, 2022 at 7:43 am

    Thanks for uploading this, Justin. I pretty much agree on most arguments. Well, the annoying part of the costs of electronic drum sets – you kinda answered that already. People all around the world actually do buy a lot of electronic drum sets DESPITE they are so expensive, so there’s no need to lower the prices for the companies.
    However, I am not complaining, because the industry is heading in the right direction – I mean, look what have happened in the last three to four years already.
    There are some products out there that, further developed, will lead to the right way, someone needs to connect the dots.

    1. The Mimic Pro – a module with VST sounds
    2. Superior Drummer 3 – a VST with incredible level of detail and realism
    3. ATV – Building bigger sized cymbals (even chinas & splashes)

    If all three develop further and, most importantly, as computer technology is still growing fast, it’s just a matter of time if we‘ll see a module with a VST like SD3 in it and playing on real sized shells. We‘ve just begun with all this. It’s good to have all products mentioned above available, so companies will gain learnings and get insights to further develop their stuff. Maybe it’s not happening fast enough, with Roland unfortunately still being the company that’s least pushing this direction even though they could with their financial power and their market share.

  24. NowI'mMe on November 24, 2022 at 7:45 am

    I have a suggestion. I hate that almost every single drum module STILL wastes valuable memory to store kit samples of limited interest. You know what I mean, samples of dogs barking, some dude yelling "hey!", the VERY tired Roland 808 sounds, etc. I play video games and used to be a game tester at Nintendo…I know video games have come a looooong way since the Nintendo 64 console (I’m dating myself here!). Games like "Little Big Planet" on PlayStation let the players create entire worlds with intuitive controls, tutorials, etc.
    Wouldn’t it be cool if e-drummers could maybe pay less for a module if they had a say in what samples are included? Why should I pay more for a drum module with twenty useless kits? I like the IDEA of the ATV module, with only ten kits but then they made it so dang expensive! I know that’s why VST’s exist but, like you said, what a pain in the butt to have a laptop dedicated to a VST…my laptop is dedicated to my professional paintings and drawings. I’m using up all of the internal hard drive as it is. Sorry to ramble! Thanks for another excellent video, Justin. I hope you and your family have a safe and happy New Year’s Eve and day. Stay brilliant, my friend. 🙂

  25. Danny Soto on November 24, 2022 at 7:45 am

    I think the only reason why edrums sell more is because they are way cheaper

  26. Senthamarai Anantha on November 24, 2022 at 7:48 am

    Man, you need to buy Roland

  27. drageben on November 24, 2022 at 7:49 am

    When are you going too review peter griffins kit?

  28. Jim Stone on November 24, 2022 at 7:49 am

    Justin, I went from an 10 year old DTX Explorer to an TD-17 kvx recently and wow what a difference…thanks for all you do…Jim Hammond Louisiana..🥁

  29. loris larue drummer on November 24, 2022 at 7:51 am

    For the hit hat, don’t zildjian did something that look great ?
    The gen 16 ?

  30. AdamArcade on November 24, 2022 at 7:52 am

    I know this is unrelated to the topic of the video, but I need help with a pending purchase.

    I have a TD11 drum module but no kit, I’m thinking of getting a Roland TD1DMKV and replacing the TD1 module with the TD11 module, however, I feel like an Alesis Surge Mesh is better value ($1000 AUD for the TD1DMKV including a kick pedal vs $850 AUD including a kick pedal for the Surge Mesh) is it possible to use a TD11 module with the Surge Mesh? Can I use both the Alesis Module and the TD11 module together to get everything working (I would like to play along to music from my phone at the same time, and don’t have a laptop to use both modules through a VST)… The lower price of the Surge would even allow me to buy a cheap mixer and still come out a price below the TD1.

    Any help is appreciated!

  31. Niels Willemse on November 24, 2022 at 7:53 am

    Why do people stil talk about ‘electronic’ drum kits?

  32. Jesse Clark on November 24, 2022 at 7:54 am

    Realistic cymbals… sounds and real feeling kinda like the Gen16 but with good midi. I have wanted to buy the gen 16s but they don’t use midi. This would be awesome for recording real drums with out cymbals to not only not worry about bleed but awesome to quantize with out artifacts in the cymbals. It’s crazy that no one has made this feature. Mimic pro is also way to fucking expensive. I bet slate hardly sells that. Major complaints about ekits. Size, highhats, the drum cages are tiny and to compact, drum sounds in the modules sound like garbage, more modules should have multi channel out puts, Cymbals fell and sound nothing like a real cymbal. Maybe a website where people can collectively make there own multi samples? Kinda like the kemper or line 6. People could even pay for them.

  33. From 10,000 Feet on November 24, 2022 at 7:56 am

    Edrumming would take a huge step forward if manufacturers let the public create and modify digal drum samples on the modules they produce. As I recall that is what made Microsoft and catapulted home computing into the stratisphere. People would create better sounds in a year than Roland could in a few hundred years….Never underestimate the power of the people. Secondly, Roland and Yamaha are just being greedy – which means they will have to share the market with a growing number of upstarts one or more of which may be hungry enough to really hurt Roland and/or put Yamaha out of THIS Business. Already their are some people like Pearl who are going to make the indusry interesting for the old boys. and let them know the party is over.

  34. Samuel K on November 24, 2022 at 7:58 am

    I’m not on board with the wireless. Like you said, batteries. I bought wireless headphones a while ago and I was so sad when my music just stopped cuz the battery was low. I think wires is fine.

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  35. Evilatem on November 24, 2022 at 8:00 am

    Man, why isn’t anyone talking about Pipes? It’s trying to be Pearl Mimic clone for $700. It works on any midi based instrument, not just drums. Danny Carey from TOOL has one already as he is friends with the guy making it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANIJx_CXe4E
    https://www.pipes.rocks/

  36. Paul Barnes on November 24, 2022 at 8:02 am

    I feel like the Roland TD17KVX goes a long way to addressing most of these points. It doesn’t address them all completely of course, but it’s definitely a move in the right direction on nearly all fronts – especially for a company like Roland that seems to always charge premium prices.

  37. Steve Arsenault on November 24, 2022 at 8:03 am

    I’d add to this, more cymbal sounds. It would be cool if they teamed up with cymbal manufacturers and created electronic sounds for their cymbal lines. Want a UFIP ride or Zildjian crash or whatever. Just my two cents.

  38. reezlaw on November 24, 2022 at 8:05 am

    The first company to make a GOOD 500$ kit with more than 3 fucking cymbals will break the market

  39. coder4Liberty on November 24, 2022 at 8:05 am

    I’m not sure what Peal did with Superior Drummer. the VST plugin system is a framework owned and licensed by Steinberg and it only runs on desktop operating systems. As it is Steinberg has resisted developing their framework for Linux. There is no comparable audio plugin framework for embedded devices like the average drum module that you could convince a software developer to produce a decent drum sample player for. You would have to spend the money to have a software developer who does a plugin like Superior Drummer do a custom port of their software to your proprietary module (which would make the module expensive), or make the module an actual Windows or Linux computer under the hood which would mean it has way more software running on it then it would ever need and it would have to have standard computer hardware (processor, memory, expansion slots, motherboard) and probably no custom DSP chips. It would probably be a beast or underpowered for what it is supposed to do.

  40. dropbearattack on November 24, 2022 at 8:07 am

    Having to use a laptop on stage is absurd, there is way more chance of something failing in any given situation.
    Would you spend megabucks on a car that depends on a laptop to get you home safely?

  41. Oscar Brea on November 24, 2022 at 8:09 am

    Quality, size and price…that’s it!

  42. Niall Dowling on November 24, 2022 at 8:10 am

    Needs more cowbell

  43. Jim Stone on November 24, 2022 at 8:10 am

    More friggin inputs on module…..🤣🥁🤣🥁

  44. KarimDJ Vlogs on November 24, 2022 at 8:13 am

    I have Alesis Nitro mesh but thinking to return for two reason first Hi-Hat is hard to control and second the noise coming when you plug in a headphone I hear noise like air

  45. Anael Teacher on November 24, 2022 at 8:13 am

    Hi, I have a question, does the Yamaha did 2.0 worth buying?

  46. Jacob Lee on November 24, 2022 at 8:14 am

    Does anyone know if it’s possible to connect a jbl charge 3 to an edrum

  47. Samuel Carlsen on November 24, 2022 at 8:14 am

    Hey Justin. Ive a question. Ive grotten the Roland td17 kvx and I’m considering getting a second high hat. Could you give me some pros and cons? Also what highhat would you recommend for under 500 dollars. I just need it to be closed all times. Kinda like Matt mcguire’s setup. Also what do you think of Matt mcguire as a drummer. Really curious to know your opinion. Thanks in advance. Great job with the videos. Always makes my Day when you upload.

  48. Kribbs on November 24, 2022 at 8:15 am

    "THATS COMING UP"

  49. Jeroen Soede on November 24, 2022 at 8:16 am

    Hi Justin, when you were talking about good sounding drum modules you did not mention the atv ad5 which provides quality samples and you can import new samples (unfortunately only from the atv store).

    But the hihat sounds are too limited: the limited nr of layers is way to low to be realistic.

    Does the mimic pro or vst plugin provide more dynamics for the hihat sound? So not just closed sound, a bit open, a bit more open and full open?

  50. Joe Flink on November 24, 2022 at 8:16 am

    I hate to criticize because your content is always top-notch, but why is positional sensing never mentioned on this channel? Or, for that matter, by anyone in the comments section? To me, it’s kind of a big deal in terms of articulation, and making it work right w/ different modules can be a total pain, or a joy if you can get it right. Surely, everybody who has played acoustics can tell the difference between striking the center and the edge of a drum.

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