AMD Walloped Intel on Top500 Supercomputer List

AMD Walloped Intel on Top500 Supercomputer List

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In this video, we are discussing how AMD just walloped Intel in the Supercomputing and HPC space according to the June 2021 Top500 list.

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Timestamps
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00:00 Introduction
02:02 Top500 CPU Trends
11:46 Accelerator Trends
13:48 Interconnect Trends
17:02 Vendor Trends
17:25 Wrap-up

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Other STH Content Mentioned in this Video
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– AMD EPYC 7H12: https://youtu.be/rITtE5M3feg
– Intel Xeon “Ice Lake” Launch: https://youtu.be/VFXGoL2rolE
– AMD EPYC 7003 “Milan” Launch: https://youtu.be/b2bEoW6FcBA

Previous List Discussions
– November 2020 Top500 List Trends Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yqesU-H9gY
– November 2020 Top500 List Trends: https://www.servethehome.com/top500-november-2020-our-new-systems-analysis/
– June 2020 Top500 List Trends: https://www.servethehome.com/top500-june-2020-our-new-systems-analysis/
– November 2019 Top500 List Trends: https://www.servethehome.com/top500-november-2019-our-new-systems-analysis/
– June 2019 Top500 List Trends: https://www.servethehome.com/top500-june-2019-our-new-systems-analysis/
– November 2018 Top500 List Trends: https://www.servethehome.com/top500-november-2018-our-new-systems-analysis-and-what-must-stop/
– June 2018 Top500 List Trends: https://www.servethehome.com/top500-june-2018-edition-new-systems-analysis/

50 Comments

  1. Tim Nissen on June 1, 2022 at 9:17 pm

    Dude shut the hell up and just get to the point fuck less then 5 min and i was falling asleep

  2. Andrew R on June 1, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    Watching the Top500 try to catch up with Folding@Home. Crazy, man.

  3. zksHPuPngGs61kNJ on June 1, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    Looking forward to the A100 content!

  4. Sambain on June 1, 2022 at 9:21 pm

    The Fugaku uses an ARM based CPU. RISC once again proves its superiority. 😎

  5. Ultra Derek Steel on June 1, 2022 at 9:22 pm

    Is Big Red 2 on that list? I know they were going AMD.

  6. Yaj Tramer on June 1, 2022 at 9:22 pm

    Awesome
    Thanks for the info
    I can’t wait to get a 64 core cpu

  7. MUMOD BIOS on June 1, 2022 at 9:23 pm

    I just love this channel!

  8. Nikolas Britton on June 1, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    Patrick, I think you misinterpreted the statistics, Intel’s market cap is 226.49 billion, while AMD’s market cap is 114.78 billion… so for AMD to get 28% and Intel to get 26% of the Top500 market share, that means Intel really took a beating. I really hope this surge we are seeing with the AMD EYPC platform can help make the AMD Radeon Instinct and ROCm open-source SDK platform more mainstream. From a technical perspective Nvidia is presently unbeatable, and now that Nvidia owns Mellanox, I’m fearful that we might see the second coming of Microsoft’s original closed-source business model return into the mainstream, as Jensen Huang doesn’t seem to understand the value of sharing. As you are well aware, composable infrastructure is the future, and RDMA over Converged Ethernet is what will enable this to happen. I was happy to see when AMD bought Xilinx, as this signaled to me that they also understand the strategic importance of the Mellanox acquisition. I really don’t want to get trapped into another closed-source platform, Oracle was such an asshole to deal with because they would nickel and dime you for anything and everything, so I’m really rooting for AMD since they have an open-source platform.

  9. John Penguin on June 1, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    How far back in time would we need to go before a pc with a 3090 and a threadripper would top the list?

  10. tommihommi1 on June 1, 2022 at 9:25 pm

    I think part of the crazy high numbers for Rome is that the Nvidia systems use Rome instead of moving to Milan.

  11. Lossy Lossnitzer on June 1, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    It is annoying that AMD created the EPYC chip when Intel/HP created a EPIC chip (Itanium) and I always think back to that.

  12. thezikaz on June 1, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    really cool video!

  13. RyTrapp0 on June 1, 2022 at 9:30 pm

    I wonder if we’re going to see AMD pair away some of the lower core count options over the next generation based on the core count demand shown here – that’s shocking that nothing is quite close to the demand of 64c parts.

  14. invent this on June 1, 2022 at 9:35 pm

    Amd still suck dont lie amd is just good for gaming cant even run maya without crashing

  15. Philtography - Cotswold Wedding Photographer on June 1, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    Does anyone know if Fujitsu are working on an update to the A64FX?

  16. Wasmachineman on June 1, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    New supercomputers based on Skylake? LOL?

  17. Prashanth B on June 1, 2022 at 9:41 pm

    AMD deserves the success, but I am rooting for ARM based processors πŸ™‚

  18. Mike Bruzzone on June 1, 2022 at 9:41 pm

    Epyc Rome and Intel Scalable XSL and XCL+r full run by Core grade;

    4C = 7,81%
    6C = 4.63%
    8C = 23.10%
    10C = 9.56%
    12C = 15.00%
    14C = 4.73%
    16C = 10.115
    18C = 6.96%
    20C = 5.26%
    22C = 1.58%
    24C = 4.22%
    26C = 1.83%
    28C = 5.22%

    No Intel Cooper lake shows in the open channel market.

    Nvidia GTC presentation reports there is no GPU compute platform advantage over 16 CPU cores per GPU.

    Epyc Rome full run by Core Grade;

    64C = 23.38%
    48C = 2.47%
    32C = 34.91%
    24C = 9.35%
    16C = 11.93%
    12C = 2.24%
    8C = 15.81%

    Today AMD share of the Cascade Lake + r Xeon market is 3.23%.

    Through 2020 Cascade Lake is produced at approximately 30 M units per quarter.

    Through 2020 AMD Rome production averages 886,274 units per quarter and surpassed 1 M units in q3 and q4 2020 and q1 2021 I expect a similar result this prior q2 I will know as soon as AMD q2 financial can be reconciled against channel data.

    Current Milan available; 7713 64C, 7643 48C, 7453 28C, 7413 24C, 73F3 16C, 7343 16C, through open market channel in sample volume. Milan sample volume in the prior 2 weeks increases 16%. Milan 32C is absent in open channel suspect Rome and Naples 32C channel clearing.

    Currently Ice Lake Xeon available P8380 40C, P8368 38C, 8360Y/V 36C, 8352Y/S 32C, G6338 32C, G6348 28C, G6330 28C, G6342 24C, G6354 16C, G6326 16C, G5317 12C, S4316 20C, S4314 16C, S4310 12C, S4310T 10C. Still in sample volume with Ice Silver filling out are the commodity movers where XCL Silver is 30% of XCL+r full run volume. Ice sample volume in the prior 2 weeks increases 100%.

    Today on full run volumes Intel Ice = 89% market share and AMD Milan = 11%.

    Scalable XSL/XCL on commodity standard platform, at 400 M units produced, will be running the data center for sometime on installed base secondary build out and installed refurbish to dGPU compute is the largest upgrade opportunity in the history or compute and will keep Scalable productive and out of the scrap heap. It will take two years for XSL/XCL to clear the channel on repurposing and after market uses.

    The last thing end users and channel need is for the accumulated capital value of time and investment in XSL/XCL+r to be made prematurely obsolete on ROI and depreciation. Reuse and refurbished sales is what funds Intel and AMD new procurements by the channel.

    Milan and Ice are thought primarily hyperscale, cloud and HPC customer direct. I do not anticipate Intel to press on the Xeon production volume pedal until Sapphire Rapids on the user need to make the most of their investments in XSL/XCL+r. Same is true for Epyc Rome in relation Milan needs to be digested in uses; primary surplus production and secondary aftermarket reuse. Also Naples primarily channel 32C inventory needs to be put to use too reclaim secondary market inventory financial value for repurchase.

    mb

  19. Mike Bruzzone on June 1, 2022 at 9:43 pm

    AMD achieved so many records for one primary reason, the application suite being benchmarked or synthetic benchmark for the most part fit entirely in Epyc L3 cache. Large L3 is why AMD secured so many records but are these records, benchmarks, indicative of on system / platform performance and that is a prime question. There is no doubt AMD codevelopers are pioneering, leading, in greater than 28 core application development (not counting out ARM server) which historically is what AMD always did for Intel, Intel even allowing it giving AMD compliment room to innovate too watch and learn on AMD’s investment in compliment (Intel customer) lead development. mb

  20. John Paul Bacon on June 1, 2022 at 9:44 pm

    It’s nice to see that AMD can compete with Intel in a market that has been Intel dominated for a long time. Maybe eventually AMD will be able to compete with Nvidia like they are doing with Intel.

  21. Ultra Veridical on June 1, 2022 at 9:44 pm

    "STH may say β€œhome” in the title which confuses some. Home is actually a reference to a users /home/ directory in Linux. We scale from those looking to have in home or office servers all the way up to some of the largest hosting organizations in the world." ServeTheHome has to be one of the more misleading names.

  22. F.B.We. on June 1, 2022 at 9:46 pm

    The only reason intel even exists on TOP500 list is because AMD cannot get enough chips.

    The limited capacity of external foundries has really saved intel.

  23. gatordontplay417 on June 1, 2022 at 9:47 pm

    This is the end 🎢

  24. Dakata on June 1, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    Hey guy! He is Patrick from STH!

  25. Rad Shad on June 1, 2022 at 9:50 pm

    I love to see NEC still scoring wins for their VEs. I’ve been really fascinated by how much memory bandwidth the two Tsubasa generations have and it seems like they’re only going to get faster in the future. They really predicted the move to on-CPU HBM

  26. Ewen Chan on June 1, 2022 at 9:50 pm

    The point about ethernet vs. Infiniband is really interesting.

    People sometimes may think that 100GbE or 200 GbE is the same as EDR IB or HDR IB.

    I can tell you, especially from the latency perspective, they’re not.

    Ethernet has at minimum, upwards of 3-4% higher latency than IB and that, to these systems and installations, makes a HUGE difference.

    In fact, I was thinking about this earlier where AMD is the most significant and mature platform right now that can support two HDR IB cards at full speed using only A QUARTER of the total number of PCIe 4.0 lanes that the CPUs provide.

  27. System Error Message on June 1, 2022 at 9:51 pm

    its worse when HP HPE for AMDdoubles their prices all of a sudden

  28. George Carlisle on June 1, 2022 at 9:51 pm

    Do you still want to think AMD is making sustainable progress? AMD has a unique sku with 64 but 2021/2022 but Intel makes their announcements at SuperComputing (SC21). I had mixed reviews about this video but you covered your assumptions at the end which was good. 2022 thought will be different for all these vendors. Now to your A100 reviews πŸ˜ƒ

  29. Jerry De La Cruz on June 1, 2022 at 9:52 pm

    AMD may have the better processor, but if they’re not on the shelf they’re not worth shit.

  30. Lossy Lossnitzer on June 1, 2022 at 9:52 pm

    Shame Oracle killed off Sun MicroSystems/Fujitsu systems

  31. badtz maru on June 1, 2022 at 9:54 pm

    Love this kind of drill down, it’s been interesting seeing my little part of the server market start to go AMD over the last year and here’s to hoping this will drive down some used server prices so I can upgrade my home lab! It’s funny cause the enthusiast side of the market thinks AMD is ‘beating’ Nvidia not realizing that for as much press as the desktop GPU market gets Nvidia still completely owns the HEDT/enterprise market which not counting mining over the past years is where the big bucks are spent.

  32. Skywalker Alan on June 1, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    Just say now some OEMs are pushing AMD systems really hard. Looking forward to this quarter’s market share data.

  33. GDR Riley on June 1, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    Xeon Phi dying really hurt intels chance to fight in HPC vs Milan and rome

  34. Tristan Ryan on June 1, 2022 at 9:56 pm

    Ty Pat learned heaps

  35. Edward Allen on June 1, 2022 at 9:57 pm

    Lenovo’s actions make sense from a sales point of view. It is kind of anoying from the point of view of the press and reviewers, because it amounts to manipulation of the data.

  36. S captures on June 1, 2022 at 10:03 pm

    Thanks Patrick
    Great video

  37. Mr AMD on June 1, 2022 at 10:06 pm

    Intel Icelake did sell as good as it did because Intel is bribing companies to not use AMD but Intel. They have done it before, and Pat started that program up again.
    Bribe money is still very powerful, and as long Intel has enough money to that they will …. That is why it frustrates me that Intel fabs get a FREE of charge update paid by government money, not only in the US but also in Europe (Pat is there to beg for more investment in their fabs), Jerusalem and also China.

    Meaning he still has a whole lot of money to bribe, and try to block more AMD sales.

  38. Giovanni P. on June 1, 2022 at 10:07 pm

    Security – anything wifi/blue tooth is not secure… Just look at all the ‘smart’ devices which form a greater mesh. Low power blue tooth can connect/ relay data up to 500 meters..

  39. APU Gamer on June 1, 2022 at 10:07 pm

    Thanks for the awesome video πŸ‘πŸ‘

    AMD’s upcoming HPC accelerator MI200 features a whopping 128GB HBM2E memory.

  40. Miyagi Ryota on June 1, 2022 at 10:09 pm

    Go AMD ftw!

  41. Doug Steel on June 1, 2022 at 10:10 pm

    If, say, Intel simply scaled up however many parallel units it uses in a supercomputer cluster-thing (hey, I don’t know) wouldn’t they move up the list? It’s not as if there’s any novel core architecture going on here.

  42. Miyagi Ryota on June 1, 2022 at 10:10 pm

    Frontier will use amd gpu and will be the first exascale computer this yearand will be number 1 supercomputer in the world surpassing fugaku arm

  43. esoel on June 1, 2022 at 10:11 pm

    Great video, as always!

  44. shvrdavid on June 1, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    I am curious to see what happens when the Intel Sapphire Rapids cpus come out….

  45. pete bateman on June 1, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    This is really encouraging, hopefully Intel will now get off the bench and start producing decent products again instead of the lazy incremental junk they’re been fobbing us off with.

  46. Pipi Ramirez on June 1, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    I hope AMD is building a good watchest. Intel can’t keep being down forever.

  47. Sightus on June 1, 2022 at 10:15 pm

    The 7V12 is a 64-core CPU!

  48. Eva Langley on June 1, 2022 at 10:15 pm

    Surprise surprise… Intel is in trouble… it was obvious for anyone with a comon sense that this would eventually happens.

  49. F.B.We. on June 1, 2022 at 10:15 pm

    I would like to see a full detailed video on NEC Vector Engine

    If possible compare performance of it with traditional CPUs

  50. x86FTW on June 1, 2022 at 10:16 pm

    AMD is overpriced and is loosing market share by the second…

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