Kia EV6 EV goes on sale in the US with 1 BIG PROBLEM!

Kia EV6 EV goes on sale in the US with 1 BIG PROBLEM!

Kia EV6 EV goes on sale in the US with 1 BIG PROBLEM!

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50 Comments

  1. gathonar on December 16, 2021 at 11:08 am

    What the car makers dont seem to understand is that kids, dont want to play with fuel to fill there cars its just not the new thing. They plug in there phones you see phones dont use fuel.

  2. Dietmar Wolf on December 16, 2021 at 11:09 am

    Good video, as always! In my opinion, Tesla and BYD are the only fair dinkum EV makers at the present. No Plan B for them. No other fuel to fall back on. Tesla is a little expensive for me, but I am waiting eagerly for the first BYDs to become available in Tassie!

  3. Sumona Rosner on December 16, 2021 at 11:09 am

    According to the California Fuel Cell Partnership there are over 12,000 fuel cell cars sold or leased in the California and 48 hydrogen stations as of Dec 1,2021.

  4. Andy Brown on December 16, 2021 at 11:10 am

    Not sure why you say these are " compliance models" in the uk i see them everywhere…love the videos great content.

  5. Donald Ostrem on December 16, 2021 at 11:10 am

    I don’t want to buy one of those cars because if you charge them, they take too long. If you charge these EVs really fast, they get real warm fast and might cause a fire.We live in a society in which things are fast. Some people that want EVS have the money for it but somebody like me, who bought a 2022 Kia Rio s are happy for what I have. It only cost me 17 bucks just to put 5 gallons in my car! People are saying that fossil fuels are evil and yet to make these car batteries for these cars are made out of lithium. Who has the lithium I believe? China. Also, they cost too much!

  6. Orwell Nailed It on December 16, 2021 at 11:11 am

    If a car has two motors and they are equally efficient, I would expect almost no difference in range when turning one motor off. In fact, splitting the load between both motors, especially during acceleration, should INCREASE overall system efficiency, due to reduced amperage and associated copper losses.

  7. Robert Luciano on December 16, 2021 at 11:14 am

    It’s not complicated stick your head in the sand and you’ll be out of business. Deservedly so… No love loss here and I own. kiA😶

  8. Don Johnstone on December 16, 2021 at 11:14 am

    Seems like it might be another case of a failure to plan being a plan to fail.

  9. RKGSD on December 16, 2021 at 11:15 am

    At least Hyundai didn’t wait as long as Toyota did to design and mass produce an EV.

  10. Urs Keller on December 16, 2021 at 11:15 am

    It’s the front motor which can be disconnected. The rear one is always the primary source

  11. Hock Lay Chan on December 16, 2021 at 11:17 am

    Business point
    Not making enough cause there is not enough volume and cost is high maybe ….
    There is this engine gearbox radiator water pump contract to honor …
    If you reduce and kill it … its might come back to haunt the mother …
    Legally or socially
    Claims from social ills
    If they pay 100k to 200,000 workers it’s big money and more the indirect workers will claim from Sub contractors and the mother will face more music ….

    Unlike GM closes the plant in Incheon and town becomes deserted unemployment spikes… but GM can go home not this mother ….
    It’s not easy to change and create a industrial disruption …

    Claims can be direct or in direct opportunities…
    Only the chassis and body of the ice remains and the others flies…

  12. socalsp3 on December 16, 2021 at 11:17 am

    They put in too much RnD for it to be a compliance car

  13. Trevor Lees on December 16, 2021 at 11:18 am

    It won’t be by 2030 that people only want EV’s it’s happening now by 2025 it’s all over

  14. Reverend Gadget on December 16, 2021 at 11:20 am

    I don’t understand why the four-wheel-drive would get less range than the 2 Wheel Dr. There is no penalty for having two motors running at the same time with electric. Except for whatever parasitic losses come from an extra set of gears engaged. Those parasitic losses would be high when you consider a 10 to 1 gear ratio spinning the electric motor at 10 times wheel speed. But turning off the additional motor does not get rid of that drag. Running both motors at all times it would raise the available regenerative braking. So in city driving that would increase your range by being able to regen on all four wheels.

  15. Daniel P on December 16, 2021 at 11:21 am

    As I understand (and this is mostly off of Tesla complaining about the EPA for a long time) they typically test cars at normal settings, not eco modes. The level of regenerative braking used if at all is also in question. Part of the reason why EPA range is not a reliable metric for real world range in my opinion. They claim a porsche taycan has 225 mile range but real-world highway tests show 280 mile range accomplished. Highly inconsistent.

  16. francois degasquet on December 16, 2021 at 11:25 am

    Hi Viking, I suspect that they sell those vehicles at loss, and this is why they are manufacturing so few of them.

  17. More MileyPlease on December 16, 2021 at 11:26 am

    The only reason not to make more is they are losing money on them & they see no path to make money on them anytime soon. This is why Tesla has an advantage. Tesla HAS to make money on their cars or find other employment.

  18. Ghawyn on December 16, 2021 at 11:27 am

    They can’t afford to make many. They’ll probably lose money on each sale.

  19. Ivor Mectin on December 16, 2021 at 11:29 am

    Kia is the ugliest design I’ve seen in years. Looks like the car was designed by a committee. No, it looks like it was designed by two different committees, one for the front and one for the rear.

  20. W Y on December 16, 2021 at 11:30 am

    Could be component constraint issues for Hyundai/Kia. No battery, no EVs…

  21. unclezeppy on December 16, 2021 at 11:31 am

    One reason why those cars are not made in large quantities is that they lose money in all of them. According to JAC/NIO engineer they had to build a dedicated factory for their EVs and still need to make 100000 cars per year to break even. The old equation car+service+parts=profit doesn’t work, today it is factory+car+charging network=profit. In NIO’s case factory + car + battery swapping stations. It’s freaking incredible how expensive those cars are to produce, every supplier, and supplier’s supplier, etc. has to make profit.

  22. Alt Er on December 16, 2021 at 11:33 am

    Who said there is no future for hydrogen? In EU there are investments planned and put into action to build network of petrol stations offering hydrogen and it means the market will solve the biggest limit factor for this segment. Check Nexo, 6 minutes to fill-up and 700 km. of range. Which electric can offer that?

  23. Ted Grier on December 16, 2021 at 11:34 am

    Hyundai dealers here in FL will not discuss anything about the Ionic 5. It is a ghost.

  24. mikezappa on December 16, 2021 at 11:34 am

    I just watched the rest of this video. Now you are saying that these 2 companies are making a mistake and planning to fail (unless they take your advice) Personally, I think they will do just fine without your help.

  25. David Koskinen-Hughes on December 16, 2021 at 11:36 am

    Fantastic cars, would love one, but too expensive!

  26. kjh789az on December 16, 2021 at 11:36 am

    Extraordinary! We couldn’t make it up! The Chinese must be celebrating. Thanks.

  27. Carl Georg Tsigakis on December 16, 2021 at 11:37 am

    The wheels drive me crazy! Directional design point forwards on one side and backwards on the other..

  28. Jim Gord on December 16, 2021 at 11:39 am

    FCEVs do not work for heavy vehicles because of; prohibitive infrastructure costs and logistics; long refueling times with pressure and temperature issues; high fuel costs; high maintenance costs. Besides FCEV trucks do not have enough power (200kW) to traverse 5% grades that require 450 kW of power. To provide the extra 250kW of power they need at least a 350kWh battery. So why use hydrogen in the first place? Better off with large pack and a constant-speed diesel range extender.

  29. Acros 66 on December 16, 2021 at 11:40 am

    The EV-6 is gorgeous. The icing on the cake of EV cars will be the demise of the gaping maw front grille styling that has plagued us for far far too long.

  30. 박현민 on December 16, 2021 at 11:40 am

    Lots of car industry problems here in Korea.
    1. We do have some hydrogen vehicles sold to consumers running around in Korea. The problem is, besides being bloody expensive even with subsidies, there are only a handful of hydrogen charging stations. Also, one charing station can only charge 50 cars per day because it takes time to repressurize the charger after pumping hydrogen.
    2. The current administration is hell bent on publicity stunts rather than real world practical industry. Hydrogen is one of there key promotions.
    3. We have a massive problem here with unions that is the most inefficient in the world of car manufacturing but is probably the most powerful. EVs mean lesser jobs for them and they are pushing against the transition.

  31. Jim Gord on December 16, 2021 at 11:42 am

    Actually the one problem with the EV6 and the Kina 5 is that the charge port door is on the wrong side to use the Tesla Super chargers that will soon be made available to them. They should fix this by moving it to the driver’s side or offering two ports (more $)

  32. Bernard Fong on December 16, 2021 at 11:44 am

    Hyundai has some problems with its reliability, though there have been improvements. Tesla can get away with this challenge but Hyundai cannot.

  33. Keeper of the Seven keys on December 16, 2021 at 11:46 am

    Hydrogen is still an important technology to develop for applications such as long distance trucking, shipping, and airplanes, but for consumer cars? It’s just never going to happen without the infrastructure, and even then you aren’t going to beat the price or convenience of charging at home and never visiting a fueling station. These companies, especially Toyota are trying to force hydrogen in the wrong place with no plan to actually make it happen.

    At least Hyundai/Kia have really good, actually probably the best given pricepoint, EV offerings but yeah, they gotta make more and compete with Tesla, Ford, and VW. Hyundai/Kia even have a huge advantage right now with these cars because 800v fast charging and disconnecting the second (it’s the front on the EV6, rear is the Porsche Taycan) motor on a platform that competes in price with the Mach e, but the only competition that offers either of those currently are $150,000 cars.

  34. Jim Gord on December 16, 2021 at 11:47 am

    As for hydrogen cars, Toyota , in desperation has resorted to giving the Mirai away with cut rate deals to ride share operations and free hydrogen for 3 years. In spite of this, FCEV sales in the US cratered in November to only 105 units.
    The jig is up.
    People have found out that the claimed H2 charging times are false, that a $ 3 million USD station can only fuel 26 FCEVS per day without another H2 delivery and that if you are the third or fourth FCEV in succession you get no H2 because the pressure is too low and the temperature is too high to dispense it. The Mirai weighs more than the Model 3 (another false claim about excess BEV weight) and you get no frunk, no fold-down seats and fuel that cost more than gasoline rather than 60% less than gasoline (electricity). FECVs are are fraud and also do not work out for heavy vehicles either – another whole story in itself

  35. Christophe-Olivier Guglielmi on December 16, 2021 at 11:49 am

    It’s all a matter or taste. I find Tesla sedans sexy, but these to me look quite good but less so, and definitely not sexy. A tad too common indeed… family cars rather than elegant sleek ones. To me…the interior though looks very nice!

  36. John Doyle on December 16, 2021 at 11:51 am

    I have an AWD EV6, it defaults to just driving the rear motor, but engages the front when needed for accelaration, and pulling out of junctions etc.
    You can pull up a display to show what is happening.

  37. David H on December 16, 2021 at 11:51 am

    Why would you assume that front wheel drive would give you more efficiency in an EV? There isn’t the drive train losses you would expect with a front engine / rear wheel drive ICE autos.

  38. Stephen Hall on December 16, 2021 at 11:54 am

    Pure electric will dominate 2025 to 2035 but both blue and green hydrogen cells will be the normal car for the rest of the century. Korea and especially Japan (with major research in Nordic, Canadian and British universities) are very close to bulk hydrogen and some of this will be a ‘waste product’ from renewables storage techniques relying on heat exchange products. Distribution to fuel stations will be easier than Viking supposes, partly because hydrogen fuel will not be put into cars so much as added on — swap out and install new.
    A major reason why this is happening in cold climes is because of the weakness batteries have there. It is far more significant than even Musk first thought.

  39. Robert Yu on December 16, 2021 at 11:54 am

    They are caught between low volume production with minimal profits and high volume production with higher margins but more cap ex initially. They aren’t confident enough to go all out on BEV thinking there aren’t enough demand even they make a really nice BEV. They are taking the wait and see approach but the consumers aren’t.

  40. Ted Chandran on December 16, 2021 at 11:55 am

    Jai Hinduja. No big problem in India for using hydrogen.

  41. Jim Gord on December 16, 2021 at 11:55 am

    The assertion that Kia and Hyundai are just making compliance cars does not square with their availability in Europe and North America. It may be that the issue is the battery supply chain. I am looking forward to my EV 6 on for order and expected for deliver early in the new year.

  42. wayne cartwright on December 16, 2021 at 11:55 am

    test drove EV6 and Ioniq5 here in UK. My wife liked the Ioniq5 best and we ordered one on 19th Nov , our car is due to be made on Jan 22 and April delivery at the moment. I didn’t think that was bad considering the delays when the E-niro and Kona first came out.

  43. Edward De Jong on December 16, 2021 at 11:57 am

    Japan and Korea had their engineers study cars, and they calculated that refueling time would be much faster with hydrogen. So their respective govts funded R&D in the hundreds of millions. They thought they would be way ahead. What they didn’t realize is that wealthier people own their own homes, and can put in 220V or better charging stations, refuel at night, and be quite happy with electric cars. They were only thinking about the apartment dwellers in Seoul or Tokyo who can’t easily charge their car, and the charging times are punishing.

    America will be half electric in short order. The other half, such as heavy trucks, will take a long time to switch over, as the average age of a pickup truck in USA is close to 20 years, and that means a car worth 4k, and there are no electric cars, even used for that price (Leaf is about 5K used, and is not usable as a truck).

    Really good design on the EV6, and their measly 100k or so production per year is completely insufficient. They could sell 300k.

  44. Lars Erik Pettersen on December 16, 2021 at 11:58 am

    This Norwegian viking, living in Sweden, will get his car in March/April, I’m very excited 😀

  45. O A on December 16, 2021 at 11:59 am

    For the Algo Bro

  46. J G on December 16, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    Yes, I ordered 2 KIA EV6 Plus AWD’s this month to be delivered at our office at august 2022. (This was our choice by the way) But I respectfully will have to disagree with you !
    H2 is the future, E-cars is the present. No more but most certainly no less of a truth! I can give you several very convincing reasons why E-cars will no reach the masses, and H2 ICC (internal combustion cars) cars will. Don’t get me wrong here, you are right about H2 hybrid elctric-cars, yes these cars will not be taken seriously for obvious reasons. Look as long as you’ll have to drive on electricity but you’ll have to add another form of energy; H2 to feed the electric-motor; you know you are basically pointing out to the general public that the electric-motor was a stupid idea to begin with.
    Wanna talk about durable and sustainability? Than electric vehicles take no place in this discussion since they have such an enormous carbon foot print at fabrication, and in their active life as an vehicle, the run on power which comes from Cole fed power stations and Nuclear power plants and so any electric vehicle basically runs on Cole and Nuclear power which provides the earth again an enormous amount of pollution…and at demolition time at the end of their life circle these electric cars create again an huge carbon foot print and if you are lucky, you will not end up in a crash with an electric-car because they’ll start burning very easily and can not be stopped by the fire brigade and so they’ll come with a truck with a huge water bed and they’ll have to throw the electric-car into the water and let it submerge into the water bed. The electric car will keep on burning for at least 4 more days while it is being submerged in the water.
    We civilians are being pushed into buying electric-cars, which we’ll have to do since gas-prices will rise to impossible prices, but we all know that H2 is the solution for this problem, or even synthetic fuels (Audi and Porsche together with Exxon-Mobile in development).
    Maybe the little electric cars to go down town; yes maybe these will remain, but there is no way a electric-car will be able to replace a car on fossil fuel. Not even close !
    Existing cars modifying from fossil fuel into H2 as a fuel in the very same combustion engine which is in this car to begin with , now that would be the only serious durable and sustainable solution, since no new cars need to be produced !

  47. mikezappa on December 16, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    "Whoever designed these cars, I don’t really care, give them a pay rise" That was an strange thing to say

  48. Erick Pina on December 16, 2021 at 12:01 pm

    The Ionic looks so good, I hope the price is right.

  49. Ska Steve on December 16, 2021 at 12:02 pm

    I don’t think Kia/Hyundai sticking with hydrogen is entirely their fault. The Korean government dictates which businesses operate in which sectors. I am sure Kia & Hyundai wouldn’t be working so closely together without the government’s influence. I suspect that the government has financed the development of hydrogen because it will give Korean industry an advantage. The automobile sector will profit the least, but that sector has the research people who could make it work, just not in cars.

  50. X Y Z on December 16, 2021 at 12:06 pm

    Not making enough because they dont have enough batteries.

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